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Virgin Monk Boy's avatar

Ah yes, the Founders’ “faith.” A real mixed bag of clockmakers, slaveholders, and men who thought “liberty” meant property—especially if that property could bleed.

If America were a church, its creed would be freedom for me, obedience for thee.

Thank you for peeling back the red, white, and blue curtain to show what’s actually behind it: not divine destiny, but deeply human contradiction.

The real sacred work isn’t worshipping the myths—it’s composting them.

Blessed be the ones brave enough to deconstruct their inheritance.

—Virgin Monk Boy 🕯️🔥✍🏻

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Joe Boyd's avatar

Deconstructing their inheritance. That's a loaded idiea.

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Keith's avatar

Yes, I'm always fascinated by this notion of a "Christian America". And that we need to return to our "Christian roots." When exactly was that? Was it when we were slaughtering and stealing this land from the Native Americans? When we enslaved millions of African Americans, dehumanizing, abusing, and even killing them, all in the name of the Almighty Dollar? Was it when we refused women the right to vote, citing their delicacy, emotional instability, and lack of common sense? Maybe it was when large and very vocal segments of the American Church declared that AIDS was God's punishment against the gay community. I could go on. There is so much more. But I think it is best to answer the real question: At what point in time did Jesus look at any of this, give us a big thumbs-up, and say, "Yep, that's what I'm all about"?

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Joe Boyd's avatar

Yeah, safe to say Jesus is not overly impressed.

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Steve Boatright's avatar

Well, perspective from the (formerly) evil empire, the colonies of America were full of free thinkers, religious colonialists, greedy money worshippers, exploiters and survivors. It was heady stuff compared with the predictable, class bound, arrogant Britain they were leaving behind. Religion was only part of the equation, self interest was much more important. In God they (mostly) trusted but in muskets they trusted more

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Keith's avatar

"In God they (mostly) trusted but in muskets they trusted more." SO GOOD!

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Beth Ann Kepple's avatar

Never learned any of these details in jr high/high school history. Just wasnt part of the curriculum. (I’m talking mid-60’s-mid 70’s). Curious as to how itz taught now….will hafta grab the next student i see & get a history lesson. Appreciate much.

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Joe Boyd's avatar

Ha! I do remember in high school studying Deism as an influence on the founders--and learning about the Jefferson Bible. (That was circa 1988-92) But I was a nerd and in AP history classes. Not sure what the actual cool kids were learning in regular history class.

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NicCann's avatar

This.

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Joe Boyd's avatar

:-)

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